In this conversation, Matthew Chavira, CEO of Profits of AI,discusses his journey in the AI industry, particularly focusing on the evolution of humanoid robots like Sophia. He explores the rapid advancements in humanoid robotics, the integration of AI capabilities, and the public’s perception of these technologies. Chavira emphasizes the importance of trusted information regarding AI’s societal impact and highlights the role of artists in communicating the significance of AI advancements. In this conversation, Matthew Chavira discusses the intersection of art and artificial intelligence, highlighting a unique AI sculpture that allows interaction with the history of African American women. He emphasizes the importance of evaluating AI experts and the need for unique perspectives in the field. The discussion also covers the significance of live events in sharing unconventional ideas, the ethical implications of AI, and concerns regarding transformative AI technologies. The conversation concludes with a light-hearted exchange about unique experiences and aspirations in the AI and cybersecurity landscape.
00:00 – Introduction to AI and Humanoid Robotics
04:42 – The Evolution of Sophia and Humanoid Robots
07:46 – The Future of Humanoid Robotics
10:25 – AI and Humanoid Integration
13:21 – The Challenge of Distinguishing AI from Reality
16:01 – Public Perception of Humanoids
18:47 – Profits of AI: Bridging the Gap in AI ThoughtLeadership
21:40 – The Role of Artists in AI and Society
25:11 – The Intersection of Art and AI
28:41 – Evaluating AI Experts and Perspectives
31:43 – The Importance of Unique Perspectives in AI
33:06 – The Power of Live Events
36:23 – Ethics in AI and Cybersecurity
38:18 – Concerns About Transformative AI
41:44 – Unique Experiences and Future Aspirations
SYMLINKS:
[Prophets of AI – Official Website] – https://prophetsofai.com
The official site of Prophets of AI, founded by Matthew Chavira. It serves as a platform to connect organizations with leading AI experts across various disciplines, offering insights into the evolving landscape of artificial intelligence.
[Matthew Chavira – LinkedIn Profile] https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewchavira/
Matthew Chavira’s professional LinkedIn profile, detailing his roles as Founder and CEO of Prophets of AI, Global Director of AI Partnerships at the International Advertising Association, and Head of Strategic Partnerships atHanson Robotics.
[Hanson Robotics – Official Website]URL: https://www.hansonrobotics.com
The company behind Sophia the robot. Hanson Robotics is a Hong Kong-based AI and robotics company dedicated to creating socially intelligent machines. Sophia has been presented at over 100 events globally and is a central figurein Chavira’s career.
[Time Magazine’s 100 Most Influential People in AI 2024] https://time.com/collection/time100-ai-2024/
An annual list by Time Magazine highlighting the most influential figures in artificial intelligence, including innovators, leaders, and thinkers shaping the future of AI.
[Techstrong TV – Profits of AI Videos] https://techstrong.tv/video-tag/profits-of-ai
A collection of videos featuring Matthew Chavira discussing the impact of generative AI on various industries, sustainability, and the rise of virtual avatars.
[HOPE Global Forums – Matthew Chavira Speaker Profile] https://hopeglobalforums.org/speaker/matthew-chavira/
Matthew Chavira’s speaker profile at HOPE Global Forums, detailing his expertise in AI and his role in connecting companies with thought leadership and educational programs.
[Thinking Heads – Matthew Chavira Speaker Profile] https://thinkingheads.com/en/speakers/matthew-chavira/
A speaker profile highlighting Matthew Chavira’s contributions to AI, his leadership at Prophets of AI, and his involvement in strategic partnerships at Hanson Robotics.
This episode has been automatically transcribed by AI, please excuse any typos or grammatical errors.
BarCode: Welcome to BarCode, I’m your host Chris Glanden and today I’m joined by Matthew Chavira, CEO of Prophets of AI, the premier gateway for direct engagement with the most distinguished figures in the AI realm. Matt, it’s good to see you again
Matthew Chavira: Likewise, Chris, thanks much for having me.
BarCode: I think we had originally connected years ago when I was working on the Inhuman project. And I think our connection was initially made through my research into robots, which then led me to Hanson Robotics and then ultimately directly to you. for those that don’t know you, would you mind just talking me through your background and then also how you initially got involved with AI?
Matthew Chavira: That’s. sure. my connection, my background in the artificial intelligence industry actually starts with this robot, with Sophia. in case you don’t know and you’ve been living under a rock for the past 10 plus years or, Sophia is the world’s most famous humanoid robot. She’s developed by a company based out of Hong Kong. called Hanson Robotics, and she was announced to the world on Valentine’s Day at South by Southwest in 2017. she’s a product of love, And I joined this company shortly after this announcement took place. And ever since then, I’ve been the primary person who has been responsible for overseeing all of Sophia’s live appearances. And she’s been to date over to over 100 countries globally. I mean, it’s been incredible. And the world’s largest conferences, the most prestigious gatherings that exist on this planet, it’s very likely that Sophia has received an invitation to participate in these types of events. from working with this company and with this wonderful creation that is Sophia, I have had the immense privilege of connecting with
BarCode: Wow.
Matthew Chavira: thought leaders, global conference organizers all around the world to help shape the dialogue surrounding artificial intelligence and what it means for society.
BarCode: That’s awesome, you’re still involved with this project. How have you seen Sophia evolve over the years when you first started in with this project up until this point in time?
Matthew Chavira: Very much, yes. it’s a great when that announcement took place, I joined the company. We were on Sophia number four, And now as at the time of this recording in April, 2025, we’re on Sophia 54, 55. the platform has gone through multiple revisions and that’s just the nature of humanoid robots, And with each, iteration of the more degrees of freedom are typically added. And this is both in the body and in the face. more facial expressions, moving tongue, eyes, eyebrows, everything that has been refined over the course. And one of the most notable, I would say, developments that have taken place is within the body itself. robot now can can move its shoulders, it has movements in the hip. what this means, what this translates to, and more degrees of freedom equal a more compelling experience, more lifelike, more human experience when engaging with this robot, And that is our goal, ultimately, is to provide these really remarkable interactions with people. We can get into that a bit later.
BarCode: I guess, I’m just curious in terms of, the overall trajectory of humanoids, where, where are we in the development of humanoids now? how fast do feel that that development of humanoids is, is evolving at this point?
Matthew Chavira: mean, we just have to just take a high level view of what’s going on in the world now, And you have one, the CEO of one of the largest tech companies, Nvidia, Jensen Wing, who a couple years back, their company made it a point to create a chip architecture that was designed specifically for modeling the way humanoid robots move about and exist in the world
Matthew Chavira: he’s sending a clear message that this is something that they are leaning very heavily into, They can foresee this future where humanoid robots work and live, among us in our daily lives, And by developing this architecture, they eliminated 90 % of the heavy lifting that was previously the responsibility of these startups. that we’re trying to, that can make a really compelling robot, but they have to train it to walk and move and learn about where it’s, where it exists in the world. And by developing this chipset and this environment in which they can model their behavior, they just unlocked the, such many frustrations that were associated with getting these robots to perform maximally.
Matthew Chavira: then these startups can now just focus on doing what they do best is making really compelling life-robots. it’s been wonderful to watch this. because of that, ever since then, over the last couple, two years or, the world, have seen some unbelievable progress in the humanoid robotic space. Robots that can move in ways that mimic and look really identical, eerily identical, you could say, to the way a human moves.
BarCode: Well, I’m sure you saw Elon Musk’s robot. What were your thoughts on that? Actually, was that real? Because it looks unreal.
Matthew Chavira: On optimists, yes. of course. mean, you have to be careful honestly. And this kind of goes into AI side of why I formed this company. But on that point is you have to be really careful now with a lot of the content that you see online because much of it, can be faked and really convincingly faked, I’m sure we’ve seen. We’ve both seen images and videos of Elon Musk’s Tesla robot doing seemingly impossible things But, I would just caution anyone to, make sure that what they’re seeing is actually real I Mean these robots are genuinely very unbelievably impressive and when you listen to someone Elon Musk who has a has this pulse on this industry you could say
BarCode: it’s hard to believe anything you see anymore.
Matthew Chavira: a very deep insight into the formation of humanoid robots. What does the future look? What does the horizon look? And he will say that he envisions a world in which there are billions of these things on the planet. And it’s kind of scary thought maybe for some and uncomfortable thought, but it’s definitely coming. How soon that is, he thinks it’s pretty soon on the horizon. Others are not as optimistic on that. it’s undoubtable that that day is coming sometime, maybe sooner than later.
BarCode: mean, the pace that you see AI evolving, from today to tomorrow is just that warp speed. you’re starting to see, the advancements with, cognitive capabilities. And now you sort of add on that layer of, physical format. at what point do you see those two collide?
BarCode: in terms of the humanoid form factor and merging with cognitive abilities or agentic AI capabilities.
Matthew Chavira: Hmm. yes. I mean, it’s already underway because artificial intelligence systems are easily they are put into a humanoid robotic form, I guess the biggest question would be, at what point do we distinguish the way that they look when the AI, which is going to arrive at convincingly human levels of dialogue and interaction sooner than what the actual physical platform. we’ll be able to develop that, the conversational ability with AI systems is going to get extremely good, extremely convincingly human-, I think the hardware part of it will still be a ways behind that. But it raises a philosophical question in that when the hardware starts to really catch up and interestingly enough, as the AI gets better and better, that
Matthew Chavira: will also speed up the development of the hardware side of things. At what point do we make it a decision that we need to build these robots in a way that they don’t look too convincingly human, And there are some individuals who are in this space who disagree on this point. I can speak from the perspective of Hanson Robotics and our CEO and his opinion is that
Matthew Chavira: He believes that no matter how capable, convincingly human you can make a robot, there should always exist some element of artifice within these creations. That they should never exist in a form that similar that you would see the androids in Blade Runner, Completely indistinguishable from humans. that, that.
Matthew Chavira: future is a long way off, I think, but he believes that that should not ever take place. That we should always have some idea of what we’re interacting with, That this is not human.
BarCode: . And I would say the same for, representation of people as well. That’s, it’s always a concern on, again, getting back to the fact that it’s going to become even more difficult to discern what’s real and what’s not.
Matthew Chavira: Well, look at what China is making a hard stance on president wants to make it law that if any content showing a human form is out there and they’re talking, that we have to know that this is AI-generated content. Because I’ve been fooled. I’m sure you’ve been fooled by some. I I’ve seen.
Matthew Chavira: Donald Trump, he says crazy things all the time, I mean, that’s just kind of what he’s known for. But I’ve seen some videos where, was, there’s no freaking way this guy’s talking about, I was tricked. I was, I fell for it. But that’s just the nature of, of this technology. It’s extremely dangerous in the wrong hands.
BarCode: and we’re all vulnerable, even though we know on the other end it could be false. It’s still, human to, exactly.
Matthew Chavira: It looks convincingly, it just looks absolutely real. That’s the level of fidelity in which AI systems can actually capture the human form now, There’s subtleties that we aren’t even necessarily aware of, but small facial movements, blinking, tongue movements, all it’s, they’ve captured it. They know how to emulate all of these little things, That go into, it’s, it’s a troubling time.
Matthew Chavira: That’s for sure. And all the more need for really high quality, trusted information on artificial intelligence and its impact in society.
BarCode: Do you think there’ll be a point in time where humanoids and real humans are going to be indistinguishable? Meaning that the form factor that these robots are in look us have skin, have skin, temperature. Do you see it getting to that point, eventually?
Matthew Chavira: . I do. I do. think that this is it’s kind of, the race to AGI now, you say, you hear it all the time and no one really knows when it’s going to arrive. They as far as what that looks when it actually does show up, there’s varying opinions, depending on which professional expert you ask. But the goal is there that. That’s that’s
Matthew Chavira: not debatable. The companies are all trying to get there, And I think that this is the same is true within the humanoid robotic space is that the more convincingly human you can make your product, the more interest you’re going to get surrounding that. I think that this is just going to be the goal of all companies is who are in this business. is to make their product as human-as possible.
BarCode: It’s just a matter of time.
Matthew Chavira: It’s just a matter of time. Now the hardware side of things is very difficult. Getting a robot to walk is extremely hard. many things that can go wrong. And I would say being in the industry, the most capable example and most robust one that is out there in the market now would be from Boston Dynamics. If you haven’t seen it, their new Atlas robot is doing a it’s known for doing the parkour sessions, this next model, their Atlas One is, it’s unbelievable. It’s really is truly, looks a human moving. It’s the strangest thing you’ve ever seen.
BarCode: I did see that and they have to be extremely expensive to to produce.
Matthew Chavira: unbelievably, but, Boston Dynamics, that’s government grants and, they’re not, they’re not short on money. That’s for sure.
BarCode: your perspective, mean, what do you see as the public’s reaction to humanoids these days? Because you’re in front of those people. they shifting their mindset to be more acceptable now that it’s more prevalent in the public eye?
Matthew Chavira: I would say. There’s definitely been an uptick in interest around this field, especially when you see leaders Jensen Hwang talking about making such a big point, a big deal of all these things. You see Elon Musk talking about it. There’s definitely been a lot more gravity behind, humanoid robotics space in general. I’m excited about that. I’m really hopeful for that because I think that people need to really it’s no longer really a science fiction topic anymore this is something that is going to be a part of all of our lives very soon.
BarCode: I always say we’re living in the age of science fiction or, or at this point, nonfiction. You can, you can never write it off anymore, shifting gears for a moment, I think that you’ve built something incredible, that’s a and really a culture accelerator in this space, which is Prophets of AI. if you don’t mind, talk to a little bit about what Prophets of AI does as well as the mission behind it.
Matthew Chavira: sure. Thanks for the opportunity as well. you can see how this was a natural progression, we could say. I’m working here and I’m working with Hanson Robotics for, going on 10 years now. And she’s being invited all across the world to these amazing conferences, And she’s being asked to give the keynote speech that, the mainline opening act, this is the most important. performance you could say that these conferences are organizing and they don’t, you the people who curate global conferences, renowned global conferences are really important, culturally, socially, they’re the ones who are shaping what is being exposed? What’s the most predominant conversational topic as far as technology or otherwise is concerned. And they’re putting the best examples of that on stage. to flesh out what this means for the world and introduce people into new concepts, the role of the conference organizer is incredibly important. having Sophia these main stage keynotes, she was more often than not being asked to participate alongside other flesh and blood humans on that very same stage. working in this industry, I got to be acquainted with. and introduced to many very prominent names within the artificial intelligence industry who are actively shaping it, are responsible for some of the most pioneering, most ambitious applications of AI. And when they’re sharing the stage with Sophia, I’m getting to know them. And that kind of you do this long enough over a long enough course of time that kind of set the stage. for me to form this company. It’s, I have this amazing list of the world’s best conferences and I’ve been meeting all these incredible people in the artificial intelligence industry who obviously have enough momentum behind their efforts that they’re being asked to participate on these same stages as Sophia. let’s combine them, let’s make a trusted resource by which businesses and organizations of all different types can access as a resource, you can say, to the highest level of thought leadership on AI that exists. And it’s undeniable, that’s what the offer is. That’s what we can bring to the table. these people are absolutely incredible. And in fact, much that Time Magazine, they come out every year with a list the 100 most influential people in artificial intelligence, It’s a running list. these are people who are the actual technical people who are, really techie building how these systems function and operate. These are people who are experts in the way it looks in business and have done some really incredible things in business application of AI. And then there’s also artists, people who use artificial intelligence in a way communicate its significance, you can say, and that’s kind of the job of the artist. And I represent individuals who are featured on this very prestigious list of Time Magazine’s 100 Most Influential in AI.
BarCode: Nice. I was just on the website before this conversation and I was looking through the lineup, You have an incredible, incredible lineup of AI visionaries, from all walks of life, different disciplines.
Matthew Chavira: . I mean, that’s the, that for me, that’s the one of the most remarkable things, Is, you can run an agency that represents all these people in AI and, there’s no two, at this point I represent, over 50 people and the list is growing massively. it, and it’s never ceased to amaze me that you, you can have people who are seemingly in the same industry. but no two perspectives are alike on it, unlike what this technology means. And many of the people that I represent, some of them disagree with one another, the way that AI shows up in the world is, it’s vast, it’s varied, and it’s incredible. It’s, owning this type of company has been an incredible learning experience for me
BarCode: that’s one thing I get from the podcast too, is you have, all of these minds that are talking, on a singular topic, but their thoughts and their expertise, deviates from one another. And it’s just, it’s very interesting to see that.
Matthew Chavira: I was just going to flesh out a bit about some of the people that I represent, but , sure. I think it’s important because whenever there is some kind of prestigious award, a Time magazine, this one that I referenced, that it’s important to kind of introduce people to the why they even ended up on this list. And I think.
Matthew Chavira: a really good example and you represent all these people in AI, I’m most drawn to the artist, It’s just, just how my mind works. And I think that the role of the artist is incredibly important as far as society, I think that the way that you can conceptualize it is, there is a wavefront of consciousness extending back throughout time. And at the forefront of this wave are the scientists who are actually advancing our understanding of the way we see the world on a fundamental level, the way that it works, and the artists who are using the insights gained from the work of scientists and contextualizing that within their creations, within their artwork. that communicates its impact, its value and its relevance for what that means for society as a whole. artists exist as kind of this bridge between the scientist and the masses and the rest of people. And through their work, they can communicate what are some of the most remarkable aspects of the scientific perspective, the scientific insights And what’s happening now in the AI space and in the art world is nothing short of unbelievable. It’s amazing, really, what’s happening. I mean, I am constantly blown away by this. And I think a good example is exemplified in one individual that I represent, an African-American woman named Stephanie Dinkins. And she’s a multi, from being featured on this list, she’s won the Guggenheim Award, multiple awardee for her work in AI. And she’s a multimedia artist, a sculptor, and she created a statue. It fits about in the palm of your hand this. And it has the profiles of three different women from her family, from her grandmother, great-grandmother, and great-great-grandmother. and it’s an artificial intelligent sculpture that when people who enter into this museum where it’s housed, they can interact with this sculpture. It’s been trained on the writings, audio recordings, just data of three generations of her family history that when you interact with this sculpture, you can hear the perspective of what it was to grow up as an African American woman in the United States going back almost 100 years. And this is an unbelievable thing that that clearly shows the power of artificial intelligence, but that’s an embodied in a magnificent and very beautiful. It’s a very beautiful creation. it’s these things just blow blow my mind
BarCode: it’s phenomenal. I mean and things that would have never even been possible. And the art side is important. And we’re not talking about gen AI art. This is art, I think, that’s on whole other level.
Matthew Chavira: Not possible. Absolutely, absolutely.
BarCode: mentioned Time Magazine and the folks I’ll try to look for that issue as well and post that. you guys are sort vetting out the speakers representatives for Prophets of AI, do you do that? How do you sort of validate their beliefs, their credentials, trust factor? How does that?
BarCode: happen and then also how does that align with the broader vision of the company?
Matthew Chavira: especially in today’s world, as, everyone is an expert on AI, I mean, it’s kind of, can be kind of, frustrating we can say, because there’s many examples of just, less than qualified individuals we can say, but, what we’ve tried to seek for, what I really tried to do is lean into people who have, unconventional perspectives on artificial intelligence and are not afraid to espouse them. usually, it just happens that these are usually people who have had a career in speaking on stage and talking about these things, because that’s just how you find them, That’s just how you get acquainted with people. It’s people who have had a track record and a successful history of talking on stages around the world
Matthew Chavira: that’s usually just it just happens to show up that way. But it’s not necessarily people who have had a long history of speaking on stage. It could just be that they’re using AI in a way that is really beneficial to society that is attempting to answer some long, long standing problems within their industry. There’s many problems in every industry. And artificial intelligence is uniquely placed to, in most cases, to solve a lot of these issues and in some cases even make them worse. it depends on how, what perspective we’re coming at it from. But it’s usually individuals who talk about this, who get out there, who are on podcasts, who are on stage talking about their belief system in AI and what makes them or their companies and their efforts unique.
Matthew Chavira: And it doesn’t hurt that you work with Sophia. a lot of the big players in the field. that’s been, I’m very fortunate in that because, even if I don’t know them personally, I haven’t interacted with them. Usually if I knock on the AI door, to speak with them, and I just referenced that I’m from Hanson robotics, that usually opens up a lot of doors because everyone knows who Sophia is, that’s been very good.
BarCode: . helps. I love the, the perspective of just, an unauthorized or not unauthorized, an unorthodox viewpoint, from the experiences that they’ve been through to, you don’t want to tune into something that, everyone is
Matthew Chavira: Yes. AI and marketing, there’s probably, there’s probably a billion people, who would talk on this, It’s just, , finding something that is really unique out there that people are really hungry for. Because I think that in the, in the age of AI, they’re seeing AI content all the time. They’re hearing the damn word. mean, I can’t tell you how damn tired I am of hearing the word. I mean, we got to think of a new acronym, but, no.
BarCode: Exactly. Exactly. You get tired of it. I try to get through one podcast without saying the word AI and I, and I, I’ve failed.
Matthew Chavira: well yes, that’s what I’m saying though. And that’s all the more important because it’s on everyone’s lips. It’s being repeated all the time. What are some of the high level questions we need to be asking ourselves about what this technology means for the future, And how do we flesh those out? many audience members, and this has been one of the most insightful things that I’ve found is that Many people who hear keynotes from the speakers that we represent, they’re being introduced and acquainted with questions about the technology that they didn’t even know that they were curious about, But that’s what makes a good speaker, someone getting you to think about bigger implications, what’s missing in the conversation
BarCode: . Now you have these people on stage, you’re doing live events, you’re involved with the live events now, I’ve even seen you emcee some live events. What is the takeaway?
Matthew Chavira: I’ll be heading to Italy in a couple of weeks to do the same.
BarCode: Nice. What has been your experience with live events and how would you sort of compare that energy at live events more virtual events?
Matthew Chavira: far, much different and, and going back to what we touched on in the importance of the producers of these live events, It echoes, what I think I’m going to touch on is that at these conferences, at these live events, the job of these organizers is to acquaint people and introduce them with unconventional perspectives. about technology and what is going on in the world. And and the audience members who themselves are in many cases, these are business conferences on average. These are C level executives and some of them are C level executives for companies that employ 10,000, 5000, 10,000 people. the the ideas that come to their mind, the inspirations in which they are now operating under upon hearing a really successful and powerful keynote. They then carry those off into their own companies, which affect thousands of people, the importance of the live event is, cannot be overstated, They’re critically important to just the dialogue about what’s going on in the world and it’s been an incredible thing and nothing will compare if for those of your audience members who are listening, maybe they’re familiar, maybe they have aspirations to get on stage themselves. Nothing can compare to the feeling of just being asked to be up there, It really is a unique thing and I’ve heard it said but from other people who are in the industry that one of the One of the greatest privileges that are afforded to very few people is this ability to get on stage and have hundreds, thousands of people in some cases, of audience members, of complete strangers just sitting there and listening to the words that you say, the words that are coming from your mouth that is a very rare opportunity for most people in this world. Some people will go their entire lives without the opportunity, but it’s incredibly important. And, the, the, expectation for those people who do get this opportunity to show up and deliver just, amazing material perspectives and just give it their all is
Matthew Chavira: That’s what you need to do. as a speaker, as an aspiring speaker, you’re there to provide feedback and support for the conference hosts, these people who have been gracious enough to ask you to participate.
BarCode: being on the security side, as, I will say that ethical implications of AI or a common thread in a lot of discussions that I have, that’s someone that has technical acumen or not. And it’s a topic that we discussed You often on this podcast as well just curious how you personally promote or ensure ethical considerations within your work is that something that you do prioritize.
Matthew Chavira: absolutely. it’s great that you mentioned because I represent someone who is directly related to how artificial intelligence systems are unveiled in the world, the kind of ethical certifications in which they need to adhere to before mass adoption, especially in thing and places government and stuff, this is Nell Watson. She’s from Belfast and she’s an AI ethics maestro at IEEE. she’s working on many of the standards and certifications of how AI systems actually evolve and get incorporated in the world. Phenomenal speaker. finding these types of individuals who are doing it from a very high level, from you could say a top down level. is really important because we want to hear those perspectives of the people who are shaping how AI works in the world, And AI, I mean, I’d be curious to hear what your thoughts are because I don’t hear it too often is how AI is affecting the cybersecurity space. I mean, I hear it echoed a lot, in the landscape that
Matthew Chavira: AI development is becoming increasingly, posing more increasingly strong attacks, you could say, on cyber security vulnerabilities
BarCode: From your current vantage point standing here in 2025, what concerns you most about transformative AI? Is there anything that we should proceed with caution on?
Matthew Chavira: I- I think that not having a full understanding of how the technology works, least, at least acquainting yourself with how these technologies work is really important. It’s phenomenally important because it gives you a baseline understanding of, how AI systems can be manipulated to deceive for deception. And I think that we’re seeing a huge overwhelming amount of fake information on our social media feeds on a daily basis. And there are a lot of initiatives now to circumvent this and get rid of this type of content, but it’s still out there. mean, I said earlier, I’ve been tricked before on AI content that’s showing up and it’s really important that anyone engaging with AI systems has some baseline knowledge we can maybe hopefully equip yourself with a better understanding of, hey, this is probably not what I think that it is, Because when you are operating under false pretenses, you can make bad decisions from there
BarCode: it’s being aware. really, it’s really being aware and, having platforms yours that that that helps, , force that onto people. Matthew, where can we find and connect with you online? And then also, where can we find out more about Prophets of AI and the the people that you represent?
Matthew Chavira: being aware. Yep the best way to learn more about the types of people we represent would be our website, of course. Prophets of AI.com. have individuals from government to ethics to artists, you name it. All the different ways that AI shows up is there. And the website was designed in a way that was supposed to be an experience. I’d encourage anyone who’s curious to stop by and visit. And then the best way to connect with me directly is of course, LinkedIn. I’m pretty active on LinkedIn, posting content, try to every week there. I’m very, very much involved on my LinkedIn. let me know.
BarCode: And you have a, you have a killer podcast. what is the URL for that?
Matthew Chavira: actually I’ve only been uploading directly to LinkedIn. LinkedIn has just been my platform, but I’m very, much in the process of developing this. That’s why I asked about Riverside earlier. Cause, Thank you. Thank you much, Chris. And thank you for all the work that you’re doing to protect us and get, and, make sure that the world has a thorough understanding of all the different dynamics in which the cybersecurity field is filled with people where we don’t fully recognize the importance of it. It’s kind of take it for granted
BarCode: It is, it is. And we feel on our side it’s the same way. we always try to think the adversary and what can be manipulated. there’s also, that line of innovation that we need to be aware of and how AI is just going to be an incredible differentiator in society.
BarCode: I know you travel extensively. What would you say is the most unique bar or bar type venue that you’ve ever been to and what makes it unique?
Matthew Chavira: sure. one of the most remarkable places that I’ve been to was in Egypt in Sharm el-Sheikh and the locals and otherwise even have described this place as having a spirit. it’s almost a living place. it’s called Farsha and it’s, it literally feels as though you are stepping back in time. The it’s the restaurant is built into the cliff side. Everything is only candle lit and by antique lanterns. and they’re constantly playing old antiquity music. when you’re enjoying your cocktail, your beer or whatever and you’re having some Egyptian food, which is wonderful, you will feel you are actually participating in ancient times.
BarCode: You’re with a legit spirit.
Matthew Chavira: it’s amazing. It truly is one of the most unique places, bars I’ve ever been in my life. It’s called Farsha.
BarCode: well Matthew I just heard last call you got time for one more? Alright, if you decided to open a cyber security or AI themed bar, what would the name be and what would your signature drink be called?
Matthew Chavira: Let’s do it. the name, I think the name would be crucible because the AI industry is kind of a crucible is a foundry of all different types of principles of expertise domains. and you, and it’s kind of an amalgamation where that affects everything in the world I think crucible. And as far as the drink goes, I don’t know. I don’t want to stray too far away from the tried and true. I the old fashioned. I would probably just serve traditional cocktails there.
BarCode: I’ll take it. I love it. Well Matthew, thanks again for your time today, I really appreciate it and take care. I hope to see you soon.
Matthew Chavira: . Thank you much, Chris, for having me.
